You're begging the question again. That's what I want to know. I already am aware what you believe, so you don't have to tell me anymore. Just tell me the LOGICAL REASONS why you believe it. That's all I'm asking for.
@9CJ6CB62mos2MO
It’s a factor because pain is generally a negative emotion, it makes the situation worse when someone feels pain rather than when they don’t. If I got shot in the foot, I’d find it much more bearable if that was completely painless. It’s bad, but I’d probably be less mad that way, and I’d likely sue the person who shot my foot for less if I didn’t feel it at all. Pain adds to the immorality of the situation, lacking it makes it less horrible. The fact that I have, or am usually capable of, feeling and thinking is what allows me a large chunk of my own… Read more
@Patriot-#1776Constitution2mos2MO
Why is it morally wrong to inflict pain on others? Can you explain that apart from God?
@9CJ6CB62mos2MO
Because that feels bad for oneself, and since I don’t want that on myself, I don’t want to inflict that upon others either, as most don’t. Generally, giving it a “would I be okay in that situation” perspective tends to be helpful.
@Patriot-#1776Constitution2mos2MO
All you've said is that you shouldn't inflict pain on others because it hurts others and you don't like getting hurt yourself. So essentially all you've said is "you shouldn't inflict pain because you shouldn't inflict pain!" Which is blatantly circular reasoning.
@9CJ6CB62mos2MO
If you don’t like it yourself, it is mutually beneficial for all to agree not to inflict pain on one another, both because the risk for yourself of feeling pain is high, and because society has agreed mutually that inflicting pain is just inherently not good for the community or the people at large, because that can start fights that hurt everyone, and because we have evolved a tendency to not like inflicting pain upon others. I refuse to have to redefine every last aspect of morality to explain my side here, I can have solid morals without religion in this case, and I’m tired of these ridiculously recursive arguments that you and I have on this subject.